Hi guys,
What about a Panzer IV Campaign ?
Any variant. OOB or full AM , Any scale. your choice.
Let me know how you guys feel and then we'll set the dates.
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Panzer IV Campaign

Nito74

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 02:18 AM UTC

nng-nng

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 02:33 AM UTC
mhh... I´d liked to reduce the numbers of campaigns I´m enlisting... but I´ve just got the Tristar Panzer IV Ausf B and the D/Tauch... and I hear them both crying ... so I´m in 


Tojo72

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 02:39 AM UTC
Sounds good,I was in on a Workhorse Campagn back in 2011,but it would need to be late this year or early next.I got a late Jagdpanzer IV to do.

Thudius

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 03:16 AM UTC
I'm just wrapping one up and have a few more in the stash. I might be tempted.
Kimmo
Kimmo

Nito74

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 03:36 AM UTC
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Sounds good,I was in on a Workhorse Campagn back in 2011,but it would need to be late this year or early next.I got a late Jagdpanzer IV to do.
Late this year for sure, my workbench is full too...

Bluestab

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 03:53 AM UTC
I'm in for a late year start.
Reasonable what-ifs allowed? I had planned to build a what-if 1946 Panzer IV/ausf K or L with sloped armor for the current What-if campaign. I've seen line drawings for a K, though none ever were built. I've got two other builds in-progress for that one.
If allowed I might move that one over here. If not allowed it's not a big issue.
Reasonable what-ifs allowed? I had planned to build a what-if 1946 Panzer IV/ausf K or L with sloped armor for the current What-if campaign. I've seen line drawings for a K, though none ever were built. I've got two other builds in-progress for that one.
If allowed I might move that one over here. If not allowed it's not a big issue.

1721Lancers

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 04:53 AM UTC
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Hi guys,
What about a Panzer IV Campaign ?
Any variant. OOB or full AM , Any scale. your choice.
Let me know how you guys feel and then we'll set the dates.
Right now you're in for it John





Paul

panzerbob01

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 05:01 AM UTC
By "any variant", are we thinking this could include non-gun-IV, such as BergePz-IV or jagdpanzer IV or brummbar (StuPa IV)? IF so, Yay!
I have many IV - based kits and need to build another IV - something sometime, so I'll aim to be IN on this - better so if it's to be starting LATE in 2014.
Bob
I have many IV - based kits and need to build another IV - something sometime, so I'll aim to be IN on this - better so if it's to be starting LATE in 2014.
Bob


Nito74

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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 05:13 AM UTC
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By "any variant", are we thinking this could include non-gun-IV, such as BergePz-IV or jagdpanzer IV or brummbar (StuPa IV)? IF so, Yay!
That was what I meant, any Pz IV based,brummbar, bergepanzer, bridgelayer, Stug IV, Jagdpanzer IV... all in.
Alex opened the door to WhatIf's based on PzIV, what do you guys think ?

Bluestab

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 04:11 AM UTC
John, If there might be an issue with the sloped armor one I'll shift it back to the What-If Campaign. I've got an abundance of what-if projects and if I can place them in other campaigns that's great. If not, it's no big deal.
I think it pushes the spirit of the campaign a bit, but isn't too bad. But if my what-if is allowed then you have to let them all in. And then we have Panzer IV with a cow launcher...or mounting a death ray. I actually have a death ray panzer IV project on the backburner using an old Dragon Hummel chassis. Along with a steampunk panzer idea.
I'll just withdraw the idea and we'll avoid the what-if issue entirely. Anyway, there's plenty of real Panzer IVs out there to draw upon. Maybe a Romania ausf. H.
I think it pushes the spirit of the campaign a bit, but isn't too bad. But if my what-if is allowed then you have to let them all in. And then we have Panzer IV with a cow launcher...or mounting a death ray. I actually have a death ray panzer IV project on the backburner using an old Dragon Hummel chassis. Along with a steampunk panzer idea.
I'll just withdraw the idea and we'll avoid the what-if issue entirely. Anyway, there's plenty of real Panzer IVs out there to draw upon. Maybe a Romania ausf. H.

Nito74

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 04:21 AM UTC
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John, If there might be an issue with the sloped armor one I'll shift it back to the What-If Campaign. I've got an abundance of what-if projects and if I can place them in other campaigns that's great. If not, it's no big deal.
I think it pushes the spirit of the campaign a bit, but isn't too bad. But if my what-if is allowed then you have to let them all in. And then we have Panzer IV with a cow launcher...or mounting a death ray. I actually have a death ray panzer IV project on the backburner using an old Dragon Hummel chassis. Along with a steampunk panzer idea.
I'll just withdraw the idea and we'll avoid the what-if issue entirely. Anyway, there's plenty of real Panzer IVs out there to draw upon. Maybe a Romania ausf. H.
ok Alex, you opened and closed the door.

So NO death-ray Panzer IV or cow launcher, or any other farm animal launcher..

We stick with Panzer IV variants. I'll list them later.

maultier

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 04:59 AM UTC
I have 3 for build.
Tamiya Mobelwagen, Trumpeter Bruckenleger 4 or Waffentraeger 4 (all spare parts + academy recicled hull)
the 3 models appears in the Spielberger book so have some history accuracy (include the last)
Sorry but I build that version in 2005....

Tamiya Mobelwagen, Trumpeter Bruckenleger 4 or Waffentraeger 4 (all spare parts + academy recicled hull)
the 3 models appears in the Spielberger book so have some history accuracy (include the last)
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I'm in for a late year start.
Reasonable what-ifs allowed? I had planned to build a what-if 1946 Panzer IV/ausf K or L with sloped armor for the current What-if campaign. I've seen line drawings for a K, though none ever were built. I've got two other builds in-progress for that one.
If allowed I might move that one over here. If not allowed it's not a big issue.
Sorry but I build that version in 2005....


thueser

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 05:40 AM UTC
I'm in for it, but depends on start date.

panzerbob01

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 08:05 AM UTC
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Quoted TextJohn, If there might be an issue with the sloped armor one I'll shift it back to the What-If Campaign. I've got an abundance of what-if projects and if I can place them in other campaigns that's great. If not, it's no big deal.
I think it pushes the spirit of the campaign a bit, but isn't too bad. But if my what-if is allowed then you have to let them all in. And then we have Panzer IV with a cow launcher...or mounting a death ray. I actually have a death ray panzer IV project on the backburner using an old Dragon Hummel chassis. Along with a steampunk panzer idea.
I'll just withdraw the idea and we'll avoid the what-if issue entirely. Anyway, there's plenty of real Panzer IVs out there to draw upon. Maybe a Romania ausf. H.
ok Alex, you opened and closed the door.![]()
So NO death-ray Panzer IV or cow launcher, or any other farm animal launcher..![]()
We stick with Panzer IV variants. I'll list them later.
Whew! Saved by the bell! No "Doppel Kuh-werfer auf Fahrgestelle Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf X" will suddenly appear HERE, after all!

Pleased to see that we'll keep it real and "just" limited to the many many extant variants of the work-horse IV! Not, of course, that a double cow-launcher on a Pz. IV hull wouldn't be rather cool!


Wherever that "somewhere" is or will be... I think I have a budding idea of my own for that campaign... "Trebuchet auf Dampf-Panzer IV"!


Bob


milvehfan

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 08:21 AM UTC
Sounds like a Cool Campaign, I think there is one in my stash...
mil
mil

retiredyank

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 08:30 AM UTC
I may be able to do this one. I have my build, for IPMS Nationals to finish and a couple of campaigns. I'm really wanting to complete a couple of panzer iv's. Actually, I'll be building two more, for other campaigns. Build and sell. Build and sell.

ltb073

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 08:35 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextSounds good,I was in on a Workhorse Campagn back in 2011,but it would need to be late this year or early next.I got a late Jagdpanzer IV to do.
Late this year for sure, my workbench is full too...
I was in on this with Anthony as well and like you I'm a little backed up too but I do have a IV in the stash that I could use for this so yeah I'm in too



Bluestab

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 08:53 AM UTC
No problem John. I could see that really get out of hand so better just keep it centered on real vehicles.
Zeke, That's similar to what I was thinking about. For the turret I was thinking more of a downsized Panther styled turret with a cast cupola and no side hatches. I'd probably do a hatch in the rear.
Bob, the cow launcher was a weapon from the old South Park game on SNES. It was a bazooka with a cows heads sticking out of the front. You'd fire it and it would impale itself around the head of the targeted person. They'd run around with this bovine beret on their shoulders. Not really sure why that particular weapon came to mind when I typed that one up. I was originally going to go with a pumkin chunkin panzer but didn't.
Zeke, That's similar to what I was thinking about. For the turret I was thinking more of a downsized Panther styled turret with a cast cupola and no side hatches. I'd probably do a hatch in the rear.
Bob, the cow launcher was a weapon from the old South Park game on SNES. It was a bazooka with a cows heads sticking out of the front. You'd fire it and it would impale itself around the head of the targeted person. They'd run around with this bovine beret on their shoulders. Not really sure why that particular weapon came to mind when I typed that one up. I was originally going to go with a pumkin chunkin panzer but didn't.

maultier

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 02:37 PM UTC
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Zeke, That's similar to what I was thinking about. For the turret I was thinking more of a downsized Panther styled turret with a cast cupola and no side hatches. I'd probably do a hatch in the rear.
my good friend Calum Melrose build this baby in 1/72 scale..
I thinks is like how your idea...
Is one of my favourites builds from him.


Nito74

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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 12:44 PM UTC
I'm counting enough interested members for a Campaign,
Fabian, Anthony, Kimmo, Alex, Paul,Bob, Emanuel, Torsten, Mil, Sal, Matt and me.
So let's find a start & end date shall we ?
Early / Late , November/ Dec. / January ... any ideas ?
15 November -- 31 July ?
Fabian, Anthony, Kimmo, Alex, Paul,Bob, Emanuel, Torsten, Mil, Sal, Matt and me.
So let's find a start & end date shall we ?
Early / Late , November/ Dec. / January ... any ideas ?
15 November -- 31 July ?


Thudius

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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:21 PM UTC
I'm easy. November seems so far away and I'm sure it will sneak up on us soon enough.
Kimmo
Kimmo

panzerbob01

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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 02:22 PM UTC
Start-up in OCT or NOV sounds doable by me!
I always start into these things "fashionably late" and way after the smoke is long gone from the starter's gun, so whatever month you prompt and timely types jump off from, I'll be along sometime later on!
But as my Pz. IV stash is basically ALL Dragons... and we know those can take a little longer than a Tamiya does (and I'm a slooow builder, so I'll figure even longer than most others would take...)... better make the campaign time generously long!
Bob


But as my Pz. IV stash is basically ALL Dragons... and we know those can take a little longer than a Tamiya does (and I'm a slooow builder, so I'll figure even longer than most others would take...)... better make the campaign time generously long!


Bob


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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 07:47 PM UTC
John
Add me to the list - I have several Panzer IVs in the stash.
Regards
Rob
Add me to the list - I have several Panzer IVs in the stash.
Regards
Rob

Nito74

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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2014 - 03:58 AM UTC
Ok guys I'll set up the date for November.
If we need to change it, no problem, we got plenty of time.
As promised here's the list:
Panzerkampfwagen IV (Pz.Kpfw. IV) - Sd.Kfz. 161.
Ausführung A
Ausführung B
Ausführung C
Ausführung D
Ausführung E
Ausführung F1
Ausführung F2
Ausführung G
Ausführung H
Ausführung J
Used by Germany, Romania, Turkey, Hungary, Bulgaria
Italy, Finland, Spain, Croatia, Syria.
Also captured tanks from Soviet Army, Warsaw Tank Brigade and French Forces of the Interior.
Other variants,
Jagdpanzer IV
Sturmgeschütz IV
Panzer IV/70
Panzerbefehlswagen IV (Pz. Bef. Wg. IV) command tank
Panzerbeobachtungswagen IV (Pz. Beob. Wg. IV) was an artillery observation vehicle
Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär
Heuschrecke
Dicker Max
Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen
Wirbelwind ("Whirlwind")
Ostwind
Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz
Geschützwagen III/IV ammunition carriers
Hummel
Nashorn
Bergepanzer IV
Pz. IV Raketenwerfer
Pz. IV, Bruckenleger
Munitionspanzer IV for the "KARL"
PanzerFahre IV (Pz.F) on Panzer IV Chassis
Panzer IV with 88mm Flak
I think that's it.
If you guys find some more versions, let me know.
Some cool camo schemes here .
If we need to change it, no problem, we got plenty of time.
As promised here's the list:
Panzerkampfwagen IV (Pz.Kpfw. IV) - Sd.Kfz. 161.
Ausführung A
Ausführung B
Ausführung C
Ausführung D
Ausführung E
Ausführung F1
Ausführung F2
Ausführung G
Ausführung H
Ausführung J
Used by Germany, Romania, Turkey, Hungary, Bulgaria
Italy, Finland, Spain, Croatia, Syria.
Also captured tanks from Soviet Army, Warsaw Tank Brigade and French Forces of the Interior.
Other variants,
Jagdpanzer IV
Sturmgeschütz IV
Panzer IV/70
Panzerbefehlswagen IV (Pz. Bef. Wg. IV) command tank
Panzerbeobachtungswagen IV (Pz. Beob. Wg. IV) was an artillery observation vehicle
Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär
Heuschrecke
Dicker Max
Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen
Wirbelwind ("Whirlwind")
Ostwind
Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz
Geschützwagen III/IV ammunition carriers
Hummel
Nashorn
Bergepanzer IV
Pz. IV Raketenwerfer
Pz. IV, Bruckenleger
Munitionspanzer IV for the "KARL"
PanzerFahre IV (Pz.F) on Panzer IV Chassis
Panzer IV with 88mm Flak
I think that's it.
If you guys find some more versions, let me know.
Some cool camo schemes here .

Nito74

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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2014 - 05:57 AM UTC
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