Emanuel ,,I have some news to enlighten you a bit ..the Kugelblitz was no paper panzer ..its is very real ...the turret of one can be seen at the Royal Military College of Science in Shrivenham, England.
There is also pics of the remains of a turret leaning against a tree and here is a link showing it .
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/19200/start/-1
John i do have a question for ya ...Waffenträger auf Pz. IV 128mm ,,is it allowed and if so goodie cause i want to build it .
Cheers
Phill
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WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 01:29 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 04:30 PM UTC
,now even tho it wasnt built the blue prints were drawn up for it so its more of a paper panzer and not a what if but thats up to your consideration and i am hoping it sways my way
Nito74
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 04:36 PM UTC
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,now even tho it wasnt built the blue prints were drawn up for it so its more of a paper panzer and not a what if but thats up to your consideration and i am hoping it sways my way
mmhh.. ok, twisting my arm from Auckland... I'll allow it.
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 04:51 PM UTC
John you the man and ya made my night cheers for that one ..now to get the bits together ,,i will have to use a brand new lower hull as looking at the plan drawings there is some cutting to do as the rear hull tapers down at the rear .
I'll steal the gun of a mates model i am going to score ..i'll use the gun for this model and the chassis for another model i want to make ,,thats no good for this campaign dew to it using Panzer 38T road wheels ,tracks and so on .
This is gonna be cool
Phill
I'll steal the gun of a mates model i am going to score ..i'll use the gun for this model and the chassis for another model i want to make ,,thats no good for this campaign dew to it using Panzer 38T road wheels ,tracks and so on .
This is gonna be cool
Phill
Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 05:47 PM UTC
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John you the man and ya made my night cheers for that one ..now to get the bits together ,,i will have to use a brand new lower hull as looking at the plan drawings there is some cutting to do as the rear hull tapers down at the rear .
I'll steal the gun of a mates model i am going to score ..i'll use the gun for this model and the chassis for another model i want to make ,,thats no good for this campaign dew to it using Panzer 38T road wheels ,tracks and so on .
This is gonna be cool
Phill
Phill,
You might want to give a shout to Tatbaqui. He's doing a Kugelblitz for the What the Flak? campaign. Maybe you guys can compare notes.
2ndWorcesters
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 06:22 PM UTC
I've been looking through the posts and builds and some really nice stuff guys.
I hope to join in soon.
Al
I hope to join in soon.
Al
Gewehr43
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 07:20 PM UTC
Pardon the ignorance here as I've never joined a campaign before. Is it too late to join in on this one?
ltb073
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 08:27 PM UTC
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Pardon the ignorance here as I've never joined a campaign before. Is it too late to join in on this one?
You can always join a campaign at any time during the course of its operation so to answer your question no you can still join
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 05:57 AM UTC
Sweet. Thanks. I've enlisted. Now I just need to finish up my current projects and figure out which Pz IV kit I want to use.
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 07:01 AM UTC
update:
Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 06:11 PM UTC
John,
I'm no expert, but that looks like a Pz III chassis to me even though the instructions clearly indicate it is a IV. Can someome educate me on how to properly distinguish the two?
I'm no expert, but that looks like a Pz III chassis to me even though the instructions clearly indicate it is a IV. Can someome educate me on how to properly distinguish the two?
Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 07:28 PM UTC
Mark,
It's a shortened Panzer IV chassis.
Cheers Rob.
It's a shortened Panzer IV chassis.
Cheers Rob.
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 01:16 AM UTC
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John,
I'm no expert, but that looks like a Pz III chassis to me even though the instructions clearly indicate it is a IV. Can someome educate me on how to properly distinguish the two?
Pretty simple...
6 Roadweels per side, torsion bars -> Pz III E or later (until D they are a bit different)
8 Roadweels in pairs of two on leaf springs -> Pz IV
Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 03:16 AM UTC
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Quoted TextJohn,
I'm no expert, but that looks like a Pz III chassis to me even though the instructions clearly indicate it is a IV. Can someome educate me on how to properly distinguish the two?
Pretty simple...
6 Roadweels per side, torsion bars -> Pz III E or later (until D they are a bit different)
8 Roadweels in pairs of two on leaf springs -> Pz IV
Fabian,
Thanks. The wheel count is what I was looking at, and hadn't thought about the leafs springs vs. torsion bars, but now that you point it out it seems obvious. Between your response and Rob's I think I get it now.
This is such an informative network!
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 03:32 AM UTC
Thanks guys !
Here I was thinking I needed to change mt build..
Here I was thinking I needed to change mt build..
Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 04:28 AM UTC
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Thanks guys !
Here I was thinking I needed to change mt build..
Sorry, John!
Never listen to anything I say! (That philosophy has worked well for my wife for 20 years!)
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 07:34 AM UTC
Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 12:41 AM UTC
Here are my start up photos for the campaign.
Tristar 35021 Pz IV Ausf B
Tom
Tristar 35021 Pz IV Ausf B
Tom
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 02:06 AM UTC
Oh well as luck would have it there is not a single cheap Panzer IV kit out there right now and i aint paying $60 to tear one to bits but luckily enough i have about 20 on them in different states of disrepair in my spares pile so i am going to use a band new but built Tamiya IV chassis which i scored with a large pile of other tanks in a auction .
Pics to follow .
Phill
Pics to follow .
Phill
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 05:28 AM UTC
Well heres some pics of the donor models ,,and yep i have a few just in case i bugger one of them up which is more than possible
And this is the chassis i will be using first ..and in the back ground ..the gun ..which i need to lengthen the barrel something serious which i am now in the process of doing and there's gonna be pics of that too soon too.
and just a few spare bits for what ever might show up
Phill
And this is the chassis i will be using first ..and in the back ground ..the gun ..which i need to lengthen the barrel something serious which i am now in the process of doing and there's gonna be pics of that too soon too.
and just a few spare bits for what ever might show up
Phill
Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 11:21 AM UTC
I'm going to try and complete this, Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.F2(G) OOB. I've let two campaigns slip this year due to work, so I hope this one goes a bit better!
Step 1
Step 2
Step 1
Step 2
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 08:51 PM UTC
30 wheels later...
If counted by single tires - much more. All undecarriage is working, dryfitted as it needs some PE's I'm waiting for. Hull is closed too. On the right side, fans from engine cooling system (inlet). Nice, but it will be not visible later. Detail level is very eye pleasing.
In the above photo one can see cover of the hand driven engine starter (between middle bogeys) It shall be higher and more forward. I'm still thinking if to shift it or leave it.
Here is small hint. ryfitting of the top hull pieces gives smooth transition in the place marked red in photo below.
There shall be a "step" there. I have seen some builds with this place flush or corrected with adding of some styrene. Hint is to glue top part (where gun sits) first. Then slide in the floor of the combat compartment. You will have required step without any effort.
Now it is time for small corrections and adding some welding lines.
If counted by single tires - much more. All undecarriage is working, dryfitted as it needs some PE's I'm waiting for. Hull is closed too. On the right side, fans from engine cooling system (inlet). Nice, but it will be not visible later. Detail level is very eye pleasing.
In the above photo one can see cover of the hand driven engine starter (between middle bogeys) It shall be higher and more forward. I'm still thinking if to shift it or leave it.
Here is small hint. ryfitting of the top hull pieces gives smooth transition in the place marked red in photo below.
There shall be a "step" there. I have seen some builds with this place flush or corrected with adding of some styrene. Hint is to glue top part (where gun sits) first. Then slide in the floor of the combat compartment. You will have required step without any effort.
Now it is time for small corrections and adding some welding lines.
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 01:22 AM UTC
Update:
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 04:38 AM UTC
@ shorty53, I love the classic lines of the un-skirted Panzer IV's. I'll be following yours closely.
I'm debating on what to do for mine. Turns out, since variants are allowed, I have quite a few kits that might fit the bill. Any suggestions? Options are:
Panzer IV H late
Jagdpanzer IV L/70 (V)
Nashorn
StuG IV
They're all modern Dragon kits. What do you think?
I'm debating on what to do for mine. Turns out, since variants are allowed, I have quite a few kits that might fit the bill. Any suggestions? Options are:
Panzer IV H late
Jagdpanzer IV L/70 (V)
Nashorn
StuG IV
They're all modern Dragon kits. What do you think?