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Tamiya Challenger 1
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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2015 - 04:14 PM UTC
Commanders scopes unmasked. wipers next.











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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2015 - 04:48 PM UTC
The famous grease gun being worked on.









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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2015 - 01:02 PM UTC
Is the grease gun from Accurate Armour?
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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2015 - 01:30 PM UTC

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Is the grease gun from Accurate Armour?



Hi Paul,

It's the kit part modified fella, I think further back are a few pictures before paint.


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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2015 - 01:33 PM UTC
Here you go










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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2015 - 06:24 PM UTC

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It's the kit part modified fella, I think further back are a few pictures before paint.



Thanks. Been busy and missed a few pages. The decal looks spot on.
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Posted: Monday, October 19, 2015 - 04:46 PM UTC
Onto the running gear and road wheels.









And made a start on blocking in the driver figures torso.









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Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 04:21 PM UTC
Some subtle paint chipping on the black areas of the cam.













Cheers for looking

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Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 05:06 PM UTC
And the commander cupola.





Dan
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Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 10:42 PM UTC
Great-looking build, Dan! Any pointers on masking the periscope lenses?

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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 12:36 AM UTC

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Great-looking build, Dan! Any pointers on masking the periscope lenses?




Just used Tamiya masking tape fella , nothing special.

Dan
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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 02:15 PM UTC
A small update form the weekend.


















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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 08:13 PM UTC
Made a start on the faces, I always find the first one really difficult to get right, mind you I'm no figure painter and I really admire those that can paint figures really well.

Please excuse these, they are not the best.

Driver is first up.











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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 10:10 PM UTC
More progress, still require a bit of tidying up.









Thanks for looking

Dan
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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 10:18 PM UTC
Dan what an amazing build and full of information. I love the Challenger both 1 and 2. Great job on the painting, good to see your signature finish. One thing I notice is the anti-slip finish on your build. Did you left this out intentionally? As far as I know the anti-slip finish on the Chally 1 looks like a rough concrete and its finer as compared to other tanks. I was on top of a Chieftain ARRV - shrek last year and it looks similar to the Chally 1. I saw some pics in prime portal where in even the side armour of the turret had an anti-slip finish, don't know why they put this there. Anyway its just me. Excellent build!
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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 10:39 PM UTC

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Dan what an amazing build and full of information. I love the Challenger both 1 and 2. Great job on the painting, good to see your signature finish. One thing I notice is the anti-slip finish on your build. Did you left this out intentionally? As far as I know the anti-slip finish on the Chally 1 looks like a rough concrete and its finer as compared to other tanks. I was on top of a Chieftain ARRV - shrek last year and it looks similar to the Chally 1. I saw some pics in prime portal where in even the side armour of the turret had an anti-slip finish, don't know why they put this there. Anyway its just me. Excellent build!





Cheers Val,

Glad that you are enjoying the build fella, I was going to add the anti slip but in the end decided against it, most of the Chally 1's I saw did have some anti slip on the turrets and hulls but to be honest they we not very noticeable, after the crews have out another 5-10 layers of paint over the top it really just blends in and looks smooth ish.

Anti slip paint in the British Army is just sand added to the paint, done in the paint factory and professionally mixed but in my unit it was very rarely used. So for my unit it was down to the crew commander to use it or not.

On a model it can be easily overdone and can ruin the whole build, I've seen it on some cracking builds on other forums when the modeller has spent ages building the kit only to ruin it with antislip that would rip your boot soles to pieces. One I've seen lately on a Takom Chieftain looked like the anti slip was applied at the local quarry, Shame as it was coming along really nice until that point.

Hopefully It doesn't detract from my build too much, I do have castacote in the tool set which gives a decent finish but just didn't use it.


Dan
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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 10:50 PM UTC
I think its better off without it as I also observe its smoother on an actual tank and as what you've said paint applied on it will blend it. Best way to describe it is a rough finish of concrete then paint applied on it. But at this scale its best to avoid over doing it and considering all the correction you did the last thing you'll do is to hide it with an overdone antislip. One technique I learned to do a fully controlled smooth anti slip is the CA glue technique but it is so time consuming. I did that to my build 2005 and its smoother than the usual sand and uneven as compared to mr surfacer. Fantastic build!
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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 11:01 PM UTC

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I think its better off without it as I also observe its smoother on an actual tank and as what you've said paint applied on it will blend it. Best way to describe it is a rough finish of concrete then paint applied on it. But at this scale its best to avoid over doing it and considering all the correction you did the last thing you'll do is to hide it with an overdone antislip. One technique I learned to do a fully controlled smooth anti slip is the CA glue technique but it is so time consuming. I did that to my build 2005 and its smoother than the usual sand and uneven as compared to mr surfacer. Fantastic build!



Hi Val, you'll have to show us how to do the CA anti slip fella, Id like to see that.

I've used castacote on US Armour build and I think its rather good, the modern Brit stuff has a finer grade of sand I have found and can be easily overdone. From my own experience Armoured vehicles in todays Army are always being painted by the crews, Spare hour ... go paint your wagon. I think that most of the Armour on my old 432 was just 20 years of paint that had just accumulated by various crew commanders getting the Toms to paint yer wagon !!

If in doubt ......leave it out


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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 11:15 PM UTC
Dan, there is nothing special about it. All you need is a CA glue and loads of cocktail stick. You have full control on where to apply it and avoid fine details. Here are the steps:
1. Put a small amount of CA glue on a piece of scrap styrene sheet or and flat plastic. I find old CD case best.
2. Load your cocktail stick (not to much to avoid a terrible mess and give you full control)
3.Apply on the surface of the tank you want your antislip to be.
4.Slowly swirl it in a controlled circular motion spreading it evenly until it start to dry. Avoid sticking the cocktail stick to the model.
5.Practice until you get your desired finish.
6.You can go over the dried CA glue to get that exact finish you want.

Hope this helps.
You can try it on a scrap plastic first and see if that simulates the anti-slip you wanted. The effect will be a bit un-even as compared to the sprayed on technique. This way you can replicate the uneven-ness and still have full control and avoid hiding details.
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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 11:32 PM UTC

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Dan, there is nothing special about it. All you need is a CA glue and loads of cocktail stick. You have full control on where to apply it and avoid fine details. Here are the steps:
1. Put a small amount of CA glue on a piece of scrap styrene sheet or and flat plastic. I find old CD case best.
2. Load your cocktail stick (not to much to avoid a terrible mess and give you full control)
3.Apply on the surface of the tank you want your antislip to be.
4.Slowly swirl it in a controlled circular motion spreading it evenly until it start to dry. Avoid sticking the cocktail stick to the model.
5.Practice until you get your desired finish.
6.You can go over the dried CA glue to get that exact finish you want.

Hope this helps.
You can try it on a scrap plastic first and see if that simulates the anti-slip you wanted. The effect will be a bit un-even as compared to the sprayed on technique. This way you can replicate the uneven-ness and still have full control and avoid hiding details.




I shall have a play with that Val, cheers :-)



Dan
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2015 - 12:42 AM UTC
Are the periscopes molded in that color or painted? They look great!
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2015 - 01:49 AM UTC

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Are the periscopes molded in that color or painted? They look great!



Thanks Guy, they are just resin copy of the kit part cast in clear green casting resin,
They do look good and much better than the standard kit part.


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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2015 - 12:26 PM UTC
Those periscopes would be a great aftermarket part.
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2015 - 02:45 PM UTC

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Thanks Guy, they are just resin copy of the kit part cast in clear green casting resin,
They do look good and much better than the standard kit part.


Dan



You made them yourself???
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2015 - 02:58 PM UTC

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Thanks Guy, they are just resin copy of the kit part cast in clear green casting resin,
They do look good and much better than the standard kit part.


Dan



You made them yourself???



Hi Guy, I'm very lucky to have a friend how has access to all sorts of casting goodies which he uses for his day job, he was kind enough to do this one for me as a kind of experiment.


Dan