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Most common truck in the 'Nam?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 05:45 AM UTC

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Hi Jake,
Thanks for getting back to me regarding the tool question. Firstly, thanks very much indeed for your observation about my attention to detail. For me, trying to achieve the most accurate representation of a scene is very important to me & now that I've found this website & I'm speaking to guys like yourself then there is no excuse, really. Getting it right is my small way of honouring the guys that were there. Like you I'm not really in to that "whatever" attitude either although when I've completed my model & eventually worked out how to post photos onto these threads here somebody is bound to comment that something or other is inaccurate & that is what I'm trying to avoid!
I've found your latest reply most interesting, Jake! So, I should leave the tool rack empty & place the OVM tools elsewhere on the vehicle. When I was trucking I used to place the longer tools (shovel/tyre wrenches/etc) up by the headboard on the truck bed so mabye I could place these tools there. An air hose, air chuck & hydraulic jack sounds like great additions. You see, I would never have thought to add those items! How long was the air hose? And you'll have to forgive my ignorance here but was is an air chuck that you refer to & what does it do & look like? Did all trucks carry this sort of equipment? Do you know of any manufacturers that make a 1/35th air chuck & hydraulic jack?
Also, your reference to wheel chains is interesting. Were these ever used much in Vietnam?
BTW, I like your ironic use of the term "feebay". Very tongue in cheek. LOL
And you've written a book about the Tropic Lightning. Interesting...
Do you have any photos of your time in country that you might want to share? I'd be very interested in seeing them.
Thanks again, Jake. It's been a pleasure talking with you.
Joe.



didn't snow a lot in Vietnam. But we made up for the lack of snow with mud
gary
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 07:35 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
The photos are great! Very interesting. What is that cylindrical conrraption?
Thanks for your help again.
Joe.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 07:40 AM UTC
So the snow chains came in handy, did they? I mean, it was that muddy, then?
Love to hear you Vets talk about your experiences with the mud out there.
Joe.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 08:32 AM UTC

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What is that cylindrical conrraption?



In picture #1 it's a jerry can spout. In pictures #2 & #3 it's a grease gun (a real one, not a M3A1 machine gun )

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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 10:11 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy,
It's interesting to see the green bag the tools are packed in. A little tool set might make an interesting sub-story on s diorama, dont you think?
Thanks for the great photos, BTW.
Joe.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 02:19 PM UTC
Hi Joe,
I need to clear up a few things.No,sorry I did not write a history about the 25th.An outfit called Albert Love Enterprises from Georgia(USA) printed this history of all the smaller units attached to each brigade( 1st & 2nd in Cu Chi,3rd in Plieku) in the 25thID from 1Oct41-1Oct66.I bought one for posterity.

WARNING!!! This is all from memory.(HA what little is left)Anyway, an air chuck is tool that attaches to the 25'(I believe)air hose,that connects on the passenger side under the dash,which has air piped from the engine driven compressor that allows air to be put in to the tire thru the valve stem.They have double head allowing for the valve stems being in two directions,due to the face(front) of the rims facing one another on the rear duals,facing out on the front tires.I wish I had the ability to draw/place pics here but,alas,I have had absolutly no joy with that,even with help from others on the site(thank you BTW).I guess we can depend on Frenchy for pics/artwork.Thank you sir!

I knew I would forget something ie, grease gun. As far as the other OVM, our motor officer collected a lot of shovels,axes,etc and locked them in a connex container(the smaller predecessor to today shipping containers,still used in places in the military) cause he was afraid he would have to pay for any losses(can you say combat loss???).

As far as the one truck referred to with the sb bed,it was used solely to pickup FNGs at the Plieku airstrip by Personnel types.3rd Brig. was in the process of swapping out the original troops with replacements and newbies arrived almost daily from 90th Repo Depot in Long Binh.

Ah the photos... A kindly ex-wife disposed of most everything I had in the way of stuff from Germany & Vietnam. Oh well,that's why she's an ex.

I enjoy your questions and answering them,and others experiences too.
Regards,
Jake
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 03:42 PM UTC

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So the snow chains came in handy, did they? I mean, it was that muddy, then?
Love to hear you Vets talk about your experiences with the mud out there.
Joe.



I never saw a truck with tire chains on it, but maybe somewhere else did. Our trucks stayed in all wheel drive 24/7. We did a have to use the winch a few times, and have seen a series of five tons daisy chained to each other with their winches. This can be somewhat dangerous, so you always give the cables plenty of room in case they break..
gary
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 03:52 PM UTC

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Hi Joe,
I need to clear up a few things.No,sorry I did not write a history about the 25th.An outfit called Albert Love Enterprises from Georgia(USA) printed this history of all the smaller units attached to each brigade( 1st & 2nd in Cu Chi,3rd in Plieku) in the 25thID from 1Oct41-1Oct66.I bought one for posterity.

WARNING!!! This is all from memory.(HA what little is left)Anyway, an air chuck is tool that attaches to the 25'(I believe)air hose,that connects on the passenger side under the dash,which has air piped from the engine driven compressor that allows air to be put in to the tire thru the valve stem.They have double head allowing for the valve stems being in two directions,due to the face(front) of the rims facing one another on the rear duals,facing out on the front tires.I wish I had the ability to draw/place pics here but,alas,I have had absolutly no joy with that,even with help from others on the site(thank you BTW).I guess we can depend on Frenchy for pics/artwork.Thank you sir!

I knew I would forget something ie, grease gun. As far as the other OVM, our motor officer collected a lot of shovels,axes,etc and locked them in a connex container(the smaller predecessor to today shipping containers,still used in places in the military) cause he was afraid he would have to pay for any losses(can you say combat loss???).

As far as the one truck referred to with the sb bed,it was used solely to pickup FNGs at the Plieku airstrip by Personnel types.3rd Brig. was in the process of swapping out the original troops with replacements and newbies arrived almost daily from 90th Repo Depot in Long Binh.

Ah the photos... A kindly ex-wife disposed of most everything I had in the way of stuff from Germany & Vietnam. Oh well,that's why she's an ex.

I enjoy your questions and answering them,and others experiences too.
Regards,
Jake



well we did have an E6 get the joy of paying for a new five ton truck! $13,600 (1968 ones!) I thought he was going to get the honor of paying for a howitzer at one time as well
gary
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Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 06:52 PM UTC
I could listen to you Vets talk about this stuff all night. It's really interesting. I'd have loved to see the E8's face when the army told him he had to pay! That's a lot of money, eh? That column of M54's attached to each other by their winches would make a great dio, dont you think?
And Jake, that thing with the sandbags in the back going to pick up FNG's? Was that some sort of psychological thing to make them feel right at home real quick?
Joe.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 02:49 AM UTC
Did any of you Vets ever stash equipment on top of the spare wheel & gas tank like chains & tarpaulins, etc?
Joe.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 02:53 AM UTC
And I've got a few WIP photos that I really want to show you guys but still cant work out how to load them onto this site! I'd like to here your opinions about my first build in 30 years!
Joe.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:41 AM UTC

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Did any of you Vets ever stash equipment on top of the spare wheel & gas tank like chains & tarpaulins, etc?
Joe.



we didn't use chains much, if at all. Used wire rope cables and polyester slings for heavy lifting. The tarps were more often than not used to keep the water out of bunkers. I never paid much attenion o what was behind th seats or even what was under it. If you broke down they just sent a wrecker
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Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:09 AM UTC
Hi Gary,
So, were the wire rope cables & polyester slings kept stowed on the truck or kept elsewhere?
Joe.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 09:00 AM UTC

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Hi Gary,
So, were the wire rope cables & polyester slings kept stowed on the truck or kept elsewhere?
Joe.



not on the truck! They'd been stolen as soon as you parked it. When we did a lift, they always sent the slings out the day before. With nets, they came from the rear, and we'd just pile them up inside each other to send back. The only wire rope to stay with a truck was on the winch
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Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:00 PM UTC
Okay Gary, thanks. Much appreciated.
Joe.
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Posted: Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 06:59 PM UTC
Hi Joe

I'm not sure I've told you about this website already :
http://ql19convoy.com/gallery/index.php

Sorry if it's old news for you...If it's not just enjoy !

Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, July 09, 2010 - 02:50 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
Thanks for the link. There are some good photos here. I like the M54 5ton truck next to the M48A3. That picture is a great inspiration for a diorama.
Thanks again.
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 05:12 AM UTC
Joe

Just came across this one. Probably not the most common truck in Vietnam... :


It think it should dwarf a 5-ton truck hands down . Reminds me of the big oil rig trucks made by Kenworth.

Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 07:41 PM UTC
Oh boy! That is one big ugly mother trucker! What on earth is that? And look at the size of those tyres!
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 10:40 PM UTC
Okay, so I know I'm running ahead of myself here a little bit, but can anybody help me with vehicle markings. As you probably know, I'm building a cargo truck that was used with 8th Grp. Trans. running convoys between Pleiku & An Khe along QL-19 (Highway 19) around 1968-1971. What were the transportation companies there at this specific time? What particular markings should I put on my truck? Should they be in white? And should I use stencil or non-stencil markings?
Thanks for your help, fellas.
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 11:38 PM UTC
Joe

Just take a look at this table that lists companies assigned to 8th Group Battalions :
http://134.198.33.115/atav/8tc.htm

Your M35 could belong to the 88th or 541st Transportation Co. Markings should be white.

Here's a picture that may make things a bit clearer, even if this truck doesn't belong to the 8th Transportation Group :


48GP = 48th Transportation Group
6T = 6th Transportation Battalion
543T = 543rd Transportation Company (Light Truck)
15 = truck # inside the company (I think...)

PS : I'm still trying to ID the big truck in my previous post..

Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 11:55 PM UTC
Thanks for the link, Frenchy. There's some great info here. So, if the markings are in white, were they stencil or non-stencil? Any ideas?
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 12:06 AM UTC
Both styles could be found in the same company...
Here's another 543rd Co truck

The "US Army 4H8300" on the hood are non-stencil BTW..
HTH

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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 01:02 AM UTC

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Joe

Just came across this one. Probably not the most common truck in Vietnam... :


It think it should dwarf a 5-ton truck hands down . Reminds me of the big oil rig trucks made by Kenworth.

Frenchy



That is a kenworth 552 truck. No more information about this ?