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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 02:07 AM UTC

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That is a kenworth 552 truck. No more information about this ?



Thanks Pascal ! I've sent you a PM.

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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 03:31 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
Thanks for putting me straight on the vehicle markings. Why is it so that the US used both types of data on their vehicles & when did this change? Would it have been the same for the USMC?
Thanks also, Pascual for letting us know what that huge monster is!
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 08:29 PM UTC
Hi fellas,
Hopefully you will be able to see the photo below of some of my very early work in progress shots of my M35A1 build. As long as I've worked out this computer properly. Fingers crossed!

Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 08:32 PM UTC
Okay, I've managed to load my photos into the gallery on this site. Now, how do I get them posted onto this thread without the dreaded red cross of death showing up? What am I doing wrong?
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 08:41 PM UTC
I'll try again. Hopefully this works.

Photo showing detailed winch with some added nuts & bolts & metal chain & hook from MR Modelbau.
What do you think?
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 08:44 PM UTC
Hoorah!!!! At last!
Okay, so now I've worked out how to do it there will be more photos on the way later today. Constructive criticism would be good but please be nice as this is my very first build in over 30 years! Honest...but nice...
Thanks guys.
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 12:29 AM UTC
Hi Joe , well let me say congratulations on getting started , and working out how to post photos .
I put my photos on photobucket and link them across .
I think that the bumper and winch look great , very precise work buddy .
Best wishes BB
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 01:36 AM UTC
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the helpful words of encouragement. I'm going to try to get some more photos loaded up soon.
I hope things are well with you & I'll let you know when the memory stick arrives.
Thanks mate. Talk soon.
Joe.

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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 01:47 AM UTC
Okay, as promised, more photos:

This photo shows an overview of the work completed so far. Showing completed chassis, tyres & wheels, & updated winch.
What do you think?
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 01:53 AM UTC
Here is a view of the updated winch from the right side.

Showing close up detail of added nuts & bolts together with a nice shot of the winch cable & chain.
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 01:59 AM UTC
Another photo of the reworked winch section, this time from above.

Notice the glue marks around the added bolts on the left side of the bumper near the hook. Can I remove these glue marks or do I really need to worry? What do you think?
Joe.


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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:04 AM UTC
A view from the rear!

A good view showing my rather amateurish work trying to add the winch lever missing from the kit. I know its not that accurate but better to have this than none at all, right?
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:16 AM UTC
Finished wheels & "weathered" tyres.

I used a Swann Morton scalpel blade to scrape off the seam lines on the tyres & then gave them each a sanding with fine sand paper to remove that nice shiny factory finish from them. Is this the best way? I heard that D-Toys has brought out a resin set to replace the wheels of this truck, too.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:22 AM UTC
Front chassis section:

View showing some nuts & bolts work for the winch attachment & another grab handle that is missing from the original kit. I got my photo references from Kageros excellent M35A2C publication & there is a good photo view of this area in there. I suppose now someone's going to tell me this grab handle was not on the A1 model.LOL
Joe.

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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:30 AM UTC
Photo of the rear chassis section with some additional Eduard photo-etch for a bit more detail.

I've added the wings to mount the rear lights to but I understand that the A1's lights were attached to the underside of the cargo bed so these wings will have to be removed.
So, what do you think of my work so far?
Onwards & upwards, as they say! I'm off to get started on the cab work now...
Joe.

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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:15 AM UTC
Looking good so far. Don't worry about the glue marks. They will disappear under paint.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:55 AM UTC

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Okay, so I know I'm running ahead of myself here a little bit, but can anybody help me with vehicle markings. As you probably know, I'm building a cargo truck that was used with 8th Grp. Trans. running convoys between Pleiku & An Khe along QL-19 (Highway 19) around 1968-1971. What were the transportation companies there at this specific time? What particular markings should I put on my truck? Should they be in white? And should I use stencil or non-stencil markings?
Thanks for your help, fellas.
Joe.



only thing I ever knew about An Khe was the long standing rumor that there was a nice swimming pool down there and a duck you had to salute everytime it passed by.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:58 AM UTC

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Joe

Just take a look at this table that lists companies assigned to 8th Group Battalions :
http://134.198.33.115/atav/8tc.htm

Your M35 could belong to the 88th or 541st Transportation Co. Markings should be white.

Here's a picture that may make things a bit clearer, even if this truck doesn't belong to the 8th Transportation Group :


48GP = 48th Transportation Group
6T = 6th Transportation Battalion
543T = 543rd Transportation Company (Light Truck)
15 = truck # inside the company (I think...)

PS : I'm still trying to ID the big truck in my previous post..

Frenchy



looks like those guys are using a pauncho liner for a tarp over the cab! Also greatly suspect that the truck has an inside dual flat on the passenger side.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:22 AM UTC
Hi Gino,
Thanks for your kind words. Once I've done a bit more I'll post some more photos of the cab.
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 07:49 PM UTC
Hi fellas,
I've just been reading back over this thread & managed to get to page 4! Wow, it is pretty big, isn't it? And some great info has come out of it. So much so, in fact, that one often misses things. So, I just want to verify that the AFV Club #3507 M49A2C Fuel Tanker was actually used in Vietnam. Could anyone help me here? If they were used, were they prolific? And did they make up the vast percentage of trucks in convoys?
Thanks in advance, guys.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 03:33 AM UTC

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So, I just want to verify that the AFV Club #3507 M49A2C Fuel Tanker was actually used in Vietnam. Could anyone help me here? If they were used, were they prolific? And did they make up the vast percentage of trucks in convoys?



The M49A1C was more common. It had the same features as the M35A1 (relocated tail lights, exhaust down the right side frame, smaller front and rear turn signals, etc.). It wouldn't be the predominant vehicle in a convoy unless it was mainly a fuel convoy. In a general supply convoy, there would be a fueler about every 4-5 supply trucks.



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I've just been reading back over this thread & managed to get to page 4! Wow, it is pretty big, isn't it? And some great info has come out of it. So much so, in fact, that one often misses things.



Yes, and it will be hard to keep up with your M35A1 build mixed in with all the other info. It may be better to post your M35A1 build as a separate post so it is easier to follow.

I have been thinking the same things about most of your threads. They wander back and forth over many subjects. The same may be true for questions that are a slightly different topic. It may be better to post them as a new post so the threads don't get this long. Just my opinion.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 04:20 AM UTC

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Hi fellas,
I've just been reading back over this thread & managed to get to page 4! Wow, it is pretty big, isn't it? And some great info has come out of it. So much so, in fact, that one often misses things. So, I just want to verify that the AFV Club #3507 M49A2C Fuel Tanker was actually used in Vietnam. Could anyone help me here? If they were used, were they prolific? And did they make up the vast percentage of trucks in convoys?
Thanks in advance, guys.
Joe.



we refueled everything out of 55 gallon drums, but then again there were no roads. I think I did see a fuel truck refueling tracks from A Troop 1/1 Cav out on the west side of Tam Key near the old French prison. I've also seen them use a trailer mounted fuel tank.
gary

P.S. correction! I did see one tanker, and it hit a mine right in front of me up near Five Four in late May 1968. Whatkind of truck it was? I don't have a clue other than the fact it was painted O.D.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:16 AM UTC
Thanks for the info on the M49 fuel truck, Gino. As to your other comments, let me just say that I do try to keep my threads going along the right channels but sometimes other users (& myself) digress a little & I find it very interesting to hear what people have to say. This particular thread is about the most common trucks used during the long conflict with Vietnamese communist forces by the US military in general & not about any one particular vehicle so to some, wandering back & forth across this extremely interesting & varied subject might be the right thing to do. I believe many modellers have enjoyed this thread & have used a lot of the information contained herein to enhance their long hours of getting their work just right. I really was under the impression that everybody enjoyed this thread. What do people following this thread think? Should I stop?
Point taken about the WIP build post, though. I'll start it later, mabye. Gino, I've always respected your contributions to other users threads & have always loved having you along on mine. You are a wealth of information & a highly respected user of this website. And I love hearing what you have to say so please dont take any of this the wrong way, my friend & I always look forward to hearing from you in the future.
Joe.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:39 AM UTC
Gary,
I bet that was some explosion seeing that tanker hit the mine, eh? I'd love to do a semi-trailer tanker pulled by an M52. Is there a manufacturer that makes one?
Joe.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 06:04 AM UTC
Joe

I agree with Gino about starting a new thread with your M35A1 build.

Talking about fuel servicing trucks, as I have already posted a M49A2C picture, here's a nice 11th Cav M49A1C (or maybe M49C..):


There's something weird with the markings BTW...Is the tank filled with fire-water ?


EDIT :
Just found another M49A2C picture :


Frenchy