Most common truck in the 'Nam?
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Posted: Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 04:44 PM UTC
Hi fellas,
Okay, the chassis is almost complete. I have begun making the wheels by following the advice of other modellers here.
Just one thing. Shall I attach the wheels before or after painting? Does it matter? What would you advise?
Also, what about fixing the model together? Should I make the chassis, cab, & bed as three separate entities & fix them together after painting or would it be okay to follow the instruction sheet & carry on building so as to paint later?
Any advice given here is most appreciated.
Joe.
"Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right...unless you are going all the way".
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:23 AM UTC
I build everything together as a unit, leaving off the wheels, tools, and any other small items that are hard to paint around. Paint it overall with an airbrush or spray can, detail paint the smaller items and the wheels, then do final assembly. After it is all together and detailed, I'll add decals and start the weathering process.
You can see the process
here on the M923A1 I built a while ago.
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Showcase
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:12 AM UTC
Hi Gino,
Thanks for the pointer & the link. You've been a great help here & I now know what order to make the kit in.
That's a nice model you've made, by the way. If mine comes out just half as good as yours I'll be happy.
Thanks again, mate.
Joe.
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:08 AM UTC
Hey Joe , Gary and mates , man what a thread ! I got left at page 5 as I didnt have time to read it all , Ive caught up now . Phew .
On the subject of morning road inspections , my dad was telling me that he used to go up as an observer in a little chopper ( Bell 40 I think ) small like a MASH chopper . And theyed fly up and down the roads looking for fresh excavations where mines may have been planted .
Dad said that he used to carry a short carbine ( M14 ? ) and load the magazines with all tracer rounds so he could see the fall of shot if they had to do any shooting from the air .
A few years ago on Vietnam Veterans Day ( August 18 here ) there was a fly over of one of these choppers during the service at Mandurah , Western Australia . Later at lunch dad introduced me to the pilot and it was the guy that my dad did the road inspections with at Nui Dat . He'd been all over the world flying choppers after Vietnam , and on retiring bought and still flew a Bell 40 .
He told me he got shot down twice in Vietnam , hurt once .
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 04:12 AM UTC
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Hey Joe , Gary and mates , man what a thread ! I got left at page 5 as I didnt have time to read it all , Ive caught up now . Phew .
On the subject of morning road inspections , my dad was telling me that he used to go up as an observer in a little chopper ( Bell 40 I think ) small like a MASH chopper . And theyed fly up and down the roads looking for fresh excavations where mines may have been planted .
Dad said that he used to carry a short carbine ( M14 ? ) and load the magazines with all tracer rounds so he could see the fall of shot if they had to do any shooting from the air .
A few years ago on Vietnam Veterans Day ( August 18 here ) there was a fly over of one of these choppers during the service at Mandurah , Western Australia . Later at lunch dad introduced me to the pilot and it was the guy that my dad did the road inspections with at Nui Dat . He'd been all over the world flying choppers after Vietnam , and on retiring bought and still flew a Bell 40 .
He told me he got shot down twice in Vietnam , hurt once .
Well you tell your Dad I said "Welcome Home!"
Never heard of anybody looking for fresh excavations, but it makes sense. The neighbors were actually pretty good at covering their tracks when setting a mine. But they almost always set them in the same general areas that they did the ones before.
gary
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 09:16 AM UTC
Brian, how are you buddy?
I'm glad you like the thread! It is good, isn't it?
Keep up the reading because you can get a mine of information from the guys on this site!
Have a great weekend.
Joe.
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 08:27 PM UTC
Hey Gary thanks I spoke to dad today and asked about the road checking again and he corrected some points that I'd got wrong . The chopper pilots name is Barry O'neil and he flew a Bell " Possum " for 161 recce not the Bell 47 ( not 40 , my bad ) . And dad said that he carried an M1 carbine ( but I dont know if this is correct ) .
He says " hi " right back .
Hey Joe , I'm on a model club tour of Eastern states museums , we head to the National War Memorial in Canberra tommorow and more museums all week .
Camera in hand buddy . I know , tough job . I'll send you a CD with any photos of Vietnam era gear I see .
Take care BB
dont mean nothing , drive on
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 09:37 PM UTC
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The chopper pilots name is Barry O'neil and he flew a Bell " Possum " for 161 recce not the Bell 47 ( not 40 , my bad ).
Here's a Bell 47G (aka Sioux) belonging to this unit at Nui Dat :
More pics here :
http://www.161recceflt.org.au/PhotoGallery/Page_1/photo_gallery_1.htm Sorry for the digression
Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2010 - 10:05 PM UTC
Hi Brian,
You are a true gentleman, sir.
A CD will be most appreciated, my friend.
Have a great time.
Off on hols right now...!
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 06:37 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hey Gary thanks I spoke to dad today and asked about the road checking again and he corrected some points that I'd got wrong . The chopper pilots name is Barry O'neil and he flew a Bell " Possum " for 161 recce not the Bell 47 ( not 40 , my bad ) . And dad said that he carried an M1 carbine ( but I dont know if this is correct ) .
He says " hi " right back .
Hey Joe , I'm on a model club tour of Eastern states museums , we head to the National War Memorial in Canberra tommorow and more museums all week .
Camera in hand buddy . I know , tough job . I'll send you a CD with any photos of Vietnam era gear I see .
Take care BB
I know all of you have heard me speak of my first sargent more than once, and how well he kept me on a tight leash. But I actually went thru four of them. The first guy was with the original stateside outfit, and was 98% certifiably nuts. The second guy was Honneycutt, and the next guy was kinda brief but a fine man in himself. The last guy is the only one left. Honneycutt never thought a lot of good about the idea of shooting somebody with a 22 caliber bullet so he rounded himself up a brand new M2 carbine, plus a half dozen magazines. He backed the gun up with an M3 grease gun.
I had premature landings in five choppers, and another that should have went down. Two were Chinooks, and the other three were slicks. I was also in a C130 that was really shot up bad by an M2, and had holes in it big enough to look thru. It was Honneycutt's grand idea to ride up there in that plane (after I'd already had one other bad C130 ride), and after we got airborne the second time I told him I was gonna bust his head when we got back! He thought it was funny!
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Posted: Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 06:41 AM UTC
the first Colonel I had always flew out in one of them. We called them Bubbles. The next guy flew in either a Loach or a Slick. Also that is one of the few times I saw PSP plate in use. Most of what you saw was the newer solid top stuff
gary
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Posted: Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 02:37 AM UTC
Hi fellas,
Back after a 2 week break. I haven't been able to do much modelling but I took the tyres away with me to do. Unfortunately, I'm still doing them so there is nothing else to report. Hopefully, I'll be able to start again on the truck tomorrow!
I hope everybody is keeping well!
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 06:02 AM UTC
Hi fellas,
Okay, just a quick question. Can anybody help me with the positioning of the exhaust system on the M35A1, please?
The instructions supplied with the kit are not very clear & I cant make out exactly wwhere it has to go. Whereabouts should I glue it to the chassis?
As usual, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Joe.
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 05:57 AM UTC
Okay, what about this one?
The jerry can that is stowed underneath the drivers door; fuel or water?
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Okay, what about this one?
The jerry can that is stowed underneath the drivers door; fuel or water?
Joe.
by the time I was behind the wheel of a duce & a half it was among the missing, but my guess would be non potable water.
gary
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:22 AM UTC
Joe
You probably know this TM drawing already, but anyway here's the exhaust system used with LD465-1 and LD465-lC engines (no turbocharger) :
According to the same TM, the 5-gallon can is a gas can.
HTH
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 08:05 AM UTC
Hi fellas,
I wondered where you two had got to! Have you both been on holiday or something?
Frenchy, thanks for the TM drawing. No, I didn't have it already. Where can I find it on the net? I'm having trouble locating the kit part in the correct position on the model. I'm not sure exactly where to glue the exhaust onto the chassis. Any ideas?
Gary, according to the TM Frenchy supplied the jerry can would contain fuel but you reckon it is non potable water. Is that from your experience from your time in Vietnam?
The can would have started out as a fuel can but would have been replaced by one containing water due to the hot & humid conditions. Is that right?
Nice to hear from you two guys again, by the way.
Joe.
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 10:03 AM UTC
Check your mailbox Joe
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 10:34 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy.
I've finished the wheels & have been putting the winch together today. I have some pretty good photos from a Kagero publication which shows a length of chain with a hook on the end which is attached to the winch cable. What should I use to replicate this? Can anybody talk me through what to do here?
Joe.
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:20 AM UTC
You're welcome Joe
. Academy "Tank supplies set #2" includes 2 hooks (along with other useful parts) that would do the job, but you'll have to swap the length of plastic "chain" provided for a real metal one...
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:41 PM UTC
Thanks Frenchy.
I'll keep my eye out for that little set. There is some other handy stuff in there, too!
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 01:57 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi fellas,
I wondered where you two had got to! Have you both been on holiday or something?
Frenchy, thanks for the TM drawing. No, I didn't have it already. Where can I find it on the net? I'm having trouble locating the kit part in the correct position on the model. I'm not sure exactly where to glue the exhaust onto the chassis. Any ideas?
Gary, according to the TM Frenchy supplied the jerry can would contain fuel but you reckon it is non potable water. Is that from your experience from your time in Vietnam?
The can would have started out as a fuel can but would have been replaced by one containing water due to the hot & humid conditions. Is that right?
Nice to hear from you two guys again, by the way.
Joe.
what was inside the jerry can is really a guess, and here's why. The trucks never traveled long enough to ever worry about running out of deisel fuel. But on the other hand 120 degree heat was rather common. Whatever it be, I never saw a truck with a spare gas can, and they were probably stolen long before I realized that they were missing.
gary
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Posted: Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:18 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi fellas,
Okay, just a quick question. Can anybody help me with the positioning of the exhaust system on the M35A1, please?
The instructions supplied with the kit are not very clear & I cant make out exactly wwhere it has to go. Whereabouts should I glue it to the chassis?
As usual, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Joe.
I can shoot some pix of mine when I get back home - but that's a week from now (I'm enjoying Fort Hood now!).
Best wishes,
David Doyle
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:52 AM UTC
Hi David,
That's very kind of you. Yes please, I would love to see some of your pics of the exhaust. I sent you an email last weekend. Did you get it?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Joe.
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Tamiya SAS Green Hornet Land Rover
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 04:34 AM UTC
Hi Gary,
Thanks for your input regarding the fuel or water can. When you say it like that it seems pretty obvious really. I'm only asking because I'll be replacing the can from the kit. I have resin fuel cans & water cans here so I have the choice. I just wanted to choose the right one & I guess the water wins.
Thanks mate.
Joe.
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