Most common truck in the 'Nam?
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 04:47 AM UTC
Frenchy,
As to my earlier question regarding the length of chain at the end of the winch. Stupidly, I forgot that I have everything I need right here at home! Way back in February I bought some US hooks/chains & some cable eyes from MR Modellbau in Germany which is exactly what I need. I also bought a length of 0.5mm metal cable which I'm going to use to replace the length of string supplied with the kit. After looking at some photos of the winch & cable I think the real metal length will sit much more accurately so I'm going to start the winch again. When I've finished I'll try to post some photos.
Also, the winch lever that doesn't come supplied with the kit needs to be added. I'm just having a think about what is best to use. What do you think? Any good ideas?
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 05:40 AM UTC
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Hi fellas,
Okay, just a quick question. Can anybody help me with the positioning of the exhaust system on the M35A1, please?
The instructions supplied with the kit are not very clear & I cant make out exactly wwhere it has to go. Whereabouts should I glue it to the chassis?
As usual, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Joe.
I can shoot some pix of mine when I get back home - but that's a week from now (I'm enjoying Fort Hood now!).
Best wishes,
David Doyle
there's not much to enjoy down there! Hotter than Hades, and the terrantulas will start moving in about a month. My old unit is down there now, and they are supposed to have built a museum of sorts. (3/16th arty). How the ended up down there I have no idea as they were out of Bragg originally
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 05:53 AM UTC
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Hi Gary,
Thanks for your input regarding the fuel or water can. When you say it like that it seems pretty obvious really. I'm only asking because I'll be replacing the can from the kit. I have resin fuel cans & water cans here so I have the choice. I just wanted to choose the right one & I guess the water wins.
Thanks mate.
Joe.
Joe, first of all you gotta remember that given the choice of an M35 or a 5 ton; the five ton wins everytime! If for no other reason than power steering alone! You also must remember that a long trip in a truck was maybe sixty miles (I did close to a hundred a couple times), and the full fuel load range was probably close to 300 miles, if not more. Most trips were well under twenty miles. But there was always the lingering heat issue. I'd simply use what ever kind of can I chose, and it would probably be just fine.
gary
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 07:08 AM UTC
Oh no! Trucks without power steering? What a lady! I've done that a couple of times myself. Not nice. You literally have to stand up & brace yourself between the door & the back of the seat to turn the wheel. Oh, the joys of modern technology!
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 09:04 AM UTC
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Oh no! Trucks without power steering? What a lady! I've done that a couple of times myself. Not nice. You literally have to stand up & brace yourself between the door & the back of the seat to turn the wheel. Oh, the joys of modern technology!
Joe.
the real advantage to power steering in the trucks was when you were driving over very rough roads. The ruts would literally snap your wrists. Seems like the five ton also has power brakes as well. All the trucks we had were strait sticks.
gary
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:21 AM UTC
Okay, what about this one? Was the driver usually alone in the cab or did he have a guy riding shotgun next to him?
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:48 AM UTC
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Okay, what about this one? Was the driver usually alone in the cab or did he have a guy riding shotgun next to him?
Joe.
We never went anywhere alone, but I guess if you were back in the rear you might be all right
gary
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:08 PM UTC
So even in a convoy there would always be at least 2 people with each vehicle, right?
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:16 PM UTC
Always. Do you let your convoy get stopped in the kill zone if the driver gets killed or disabled? The co-driver is there for several reasons, the most important being force protection.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:24 PM UTC
And the co-driver would ride up front?
Joe.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 08:50 PM UTC
Also, what sort of personal equipment/weaponry would the driver & co-driver have stowed in the cab with them?
Helmets, flak jackets, webbing gear, M16's, shotguns, etc, etc?
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 03:53 PM UTC
Hi fellas,
What sort of trailer was typically hauled by a deuce & a half? Was it the M101 3/4ton trailer or perhaps the M104 1 1/2ton trailer or mabye even a fuel or water bowser? (Any pictures would be great!)
And what was a typical load for the M35A1? I'm thinking about what sort of things to put onto the cargo bed & I'd like a few ideas, please.
Any help here would be very much appreciated.
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 05:02 PM UTC
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Also, what sort of personal equipment/weaponry would the driver & co-driver have stowed in the cab with them?
Helmets, flak jackets, webbing gear, M16's, shotguns, etc, etc?
Joe.
How the folks were equiped was actually handed down as division SOP (remember the sargent major fiasco?). My division (23rd infantry) required flak jackets and a steel pot. My batallion required you to wear them with the windshield upright. We simply brought along M16 rifles with a couple bandolers of magazines. Now we used the flak jackets as seat cushions (I know!). We never bothered with machine guns. Don't forget to sand bag the floor board of the truck!
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 05:05 PM UTC
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Hi fellas,
What sort of trailer was typically hauled by a deuce & a half? Was it the M101 3/4ton trailer or perhaps the M104 1 1/2ton trailer or mabye even a fuel or water bowser? (Any pictures would be great!)
And what was a typical load for the M35A1? I'm thinking about what sort of things to put onto the cargo bed & I'd like a few ideas, please.
Any help here would be very much appreciated.
Joe.
pallots of beer for a start! Rations, small arms ammo, and other small things. A water tank was about the only trailor we ever hauled
gary
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 06:18 PM UTC
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the pointers. I would have forgotten the sandbags if you hadn't reminded me. So, a layer of sandbags on the floor of the cab & a load of rations/ammo/beers/etc.
M16's with a couple of bandoliers. Would the driver or co-driver carry a sidearm?
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 06:52 PM UTC
Okay, this is going to sound really silly but I'm almost a total newbie to all this. What is the best way to make some sandbags? What's the best material to use & what size should I make them?
Thanks fellas.
Joe.
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 08:35 PM UTC
Hi Joe
Take a look at these for some tips about sand bags :
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/1794 https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/45675&page=1 https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/120769&page=1https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/36594&page=1Talking about Vietnam trailers, here's a Marine truck towing what appears to be a M105 1 1/2 ton trailer. M105 and M104 trailers are visually similar : the M104 uses 11.00x20 tires, while the M105 uses 9.00x20 tires, but these could easily be mixed up... The front landing gear is a giveaway but it's not always visible in period pics
...
HTH
Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 11:52 PM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
Thanks for the links, my friend! You're always a great help! I've got loads of milliput here so I'll use that method, I think. I'll have a practice later to see how I get on.
And thanks for that great picture. I'll probably invest in a number of different trailers in the near future & see which one goes the best.
Another thing: I'm going to model the truck without the canvas roof but I'd like to have the roof frame erected as in the picture above. However, I'm not sure how the frame is attached inside the cab. Can anybody help me with that, please?
Thanks guys.
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 12:47 AM UTC
Maybe this would help
?
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 01:25 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
Thanks a million for the great diagram & pics but I think the diagram above shows how the canvas roof is attached to the frame. I need to know how the metal frame is attached to the cab. Is it screwed in behind the doors or does it go down to the floor of the cab? Or something else?
Anyone?
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 03:25 AM UTC
Joe
I believe the lower ends of the frame are just fit into holes on the cabin sides, a bit like the cargo bed bows. If you give a close look to the picture below, I think you'll see what I mean (from Pierre Piveteau's
walkaround)
The lower end of the frame is visible just between the driving wheel and the seat back.
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 04:37 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
Thanks for the extra pictures. They really help & I think I've got my head around how it works...I think!
When I get to that part of the build I'll let you know how I get on.
Thanks again, my friend.
Joe.
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 05:29 AM UTC
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Hi Gary,
Thanks for the pointers. I would have forgotten the sandbags if you hadn't reminded me. So, a layer of sandbags on the floor of the cab & a load of rations/ammo/beers/etc.
M16's with a couple of bandoliers. Would the driver or co-driver carry a sidearm?
Joe.
actually most guys were not issued a side arm unless they were NCO's, or assigned to a crew served weapon. Of course Officers were issued pistols as well. Most of the side arms you saw were not military issue, but personal issue. I had a Jim Clark built 1911A1, and many guys had revolvers. Garman had a Ruger Super Blackhawk that was engraved with his name on it (a gift from his employer). 45's were kind of in vogue mostly due to a good supply of ammo.
Also many guys carried knives of just about every varity you could imagine! I had a Stone with an 8" blade, and a small boot knife. As I said once you left the rear you looked more or less like a Mexican bandit traveling with Pauncho Villa! Some guys were issued bayonets, and many others didn't get one. I got one that was donated off a KIA, and promptly took the file to it.
One thing I see in figures other folks do is the basic uniforms they wear. Looking at them I'd know they were not ready for prime time. Make the pants pockets kinda bulge out (especially the lower ones). In one you carried eating utensils and junk like that. In the other you'd have medical stuff including a syringe or two. Just the usual extras you pick up along the way (shoe strings, a plastic bag with a salt & pepper shakers, bug killer, ring work killer)
gary
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 05:39 AM UTC
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Okay, this is going to sound really silly but I'm almost a total newbie to all this. What is the best way to make some sandbags? What's the best material to use & what size should I make them?
Thanks fellas.
Joe.
here's something I've been working with a little bit from time to time. Crayola sells an air hardening clay that can be worked just like regular clay. Roll the stuff flat (DO NOT USE YOUR WIFE'S ROLLING PIN UNLESS YOU WANT TO FEEL IT ONTOP YOUR NOGGIN"!!!) Roll the stuff with a tin can till it scales out three or four inches thick. Then just cut out the bags as you want them. All sandbags should be stacked with the tied end tucked under the bag. Bags came in grey, violet, green, and forest green. Make your bags about 10" wide by about 15" long, and three to four inches thick.
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 05:43 AM UTC
I have a complaint!!!!!!!! That's a Marine truck, and there's no windshield on it! Now the Marines were in I-Corps, and actually came under the thumb of the 23rd Infantry (Americal). Now I want to know how these guys were getting by without the windshield up? I had to stack a zillion sandbags over this issue alone! Wait'll I see my first sargent!! Somehow I have the opinion that I've been had in a very big way!
gary
