Nice emplacement Paul.
Update time.
With the groundwork dried I decided to prime it. I plan on going with a grey-brown/tan color soil so I used gray primer. I overshot a coats of dark earth, tan, and gray, to give it the right shade I was looking for as well as give it a sense of depth.
With the FT-17 to show placement.
I went ahead and painted the sides of the diorama. The Styrofoam was covered in a layer of tissue and white glue. I used an old bottle of Polly S Centaur Brown I had. Then, I painted the shoring boards inside the trench. This is a base coat and will be painted over.
Letting the base dry...I added the black outlines to the FT-17. Not my best work but after the washes and dirt it should be fine.
Anyway, that's it for now.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 07:50 AM UTC
Thanks Rick, you armour guys have my respect too, all that suspension & tracks, never can get them to sit quite right when I try.
Great builds Alex, Paul not so clever at groundwork either.
excellent thread, lots of variety.
Si
Great builds Alex, Paul not so clever at groundwork either.
excellent thread, lots of variety.
Si
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 06:24 AM UTC
A little more accomplished.
I added some details to the base. Because a WW1 scene without barbed wire is just wrong, I added a length of barbed wire. One of the aspects I am trying to push is the smashed landscape that you see in so many WW1 trench photos. So I added shattered tree stumps made from cut and broken sections of a china berry tree branch. The scrub brush will have some foliage added. Those were made from wire twisted and painted.
I played around with the placement of the tank. I realized that I had left off the trench crossing thing-a-ma-jig on the rear so I added it and then reworked how I was going to place the tank. I sort of settled on placement. The idea is that the tanks caught the edge of the trench and slid in and became stuck...or broke down. The trench was out in no-man's-land so the crew waited until night and used the cover of darkness to get back to their lines.
German infantry has moved up and found the abandoned tank in the trench. They are using the trench as cover as they work their way across no-man's-land. That plays in with the stagnant trench warfare thing.
Anyway, I'm playing around with the placement some. In hindsight, I probably would have had the bunker part more in the center with sections of trench on both sides. Also, it's a bit cliché but I would have rather used French infantry accompanying the FT. Can't use what you don't have.
I added some details to the base. Because a WW1 scene without barbed wire is just wrong, I added a length of barbed wire. One of the aspects I am trying to push is the smashed landscape that you see in so many WW1 trench photos. So I added shattered tree stumps made from cut and broken sections of a china berry tree branch. The scrub brush will have some foliage added. Those were made from wire twisted and painted.
I played around with the placement of the tank. I realized that I had left off the trench crossing thing-a-ma-jig on the rear so I added it and then reworked how I was going to place the tank. I sort of settled on placement. The idea is that the tanks caught the edge of the trench and slid in and became stuck...or broke down. The trench was out in no-man's-land so the crew waited until night and used the cover of darkness to get back to their lines.
German infantry has moved up and found the abandoned tank in the trench. They are using the trench as cover as they work their way across no-man's-land. That plays in with the stagnant trench warfare thing.
Anyway, I'm playing around with the placement some. In hindsight, I probably would have had the bunker part more in the center with sections of trench on both sides. Also, it's a bit cliché but I would have rather used French infantry accompanying the FT. Can't use what you don't have.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 06:54 AM UTC
Hi Alex,
It's looking good, nice barbed wire where did you get it?
Paul
It's looking good, nice barbed wire where did you get it?
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 08:39 AM UTC
Paul, I made it using a technique someone posted on these boards a while back. Let me see if I can find it and I'll link to it for you.
EDIT: whalla!
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/107
EDIT: whalla!
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/107
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 04:08 PM UTC
Looking good Si, that's no small task you're taking on!
Nice groundwork Paul and Alex, looking forward to seeing your results!
Nice groundwork Paul and Alex, looking forward to seeing your results!
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 07:06 AM UTC
Thanks all.
A quick update. Last night I managed to get the pioneer tools and hatches on the FT. I'll try to get to work on the figures tonight.
A quick update. Last night I managed to get the pioneer tools and hatches on the FT. I'll try to get to work on the figures tonight.
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 08:50 AM UTC
Looking good Alex.
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 03:46 PM UTC
Hi all
Some nice work going on in this campaign.
It's been a while since I've posted anything, but I've finally gotten a little more done on the Paris gun build. The basic track work for the emplacement is finished, after several false starts and some wasted track. The layout is according to the dimensions given for the Beaumont emplacement in Colonel Miller's book on the Paris gun.
The cork roadbed is HO scale, and the standard gauge track is HO (1/87) scale flex track which has been split and widened to
1/72 scale. The narrow gauge track is the ammunition supply track for the gun, and is N gauge (1/160 scale) flex track with every other tie cut out.
The photo below shows the gun mounted on its base and ready for loading, with the ammo hoist bridge positioned above the end of the ammo supply track.
Next up, the Gantry crane, a real challenge, because the only dimensions I have are the track gauge and the spacing between the outer tracks and the center of the emplacement. Everything else is precision (lol) guesswork based on photos and sketches, very few of which are in agreement.
Cheers
Dick
Some nice work going on in this campaign.
It's been a while since I've posted anything, but I've finally gotten a little more done on the Paris gun build. The basic track work for the emplacement is finished, after several false starts and some wasted track. The layout is according to the dimensions given for the Beaumont emplacement in Colonel Miller's book on the Paris gun.
The cork roadbed is HO scale, and the standard gauge track is HO (1/87) scale flex track which has been split and widened to
1/72 scale. The narrow gauge track is the ammunition supply track for the gun, and is N gauge (1/160 scale) flex track with every other tie cut out.
The photo below shows the gun mounted on its base and ready for loading, with the ammo hoist bridge positioned above the end of the ammo supply track.
Next up, the Gantry crane, a real challenge, because the only dimensions I have are the track gauge and the spacing between the outer tracks and the center of the emplacement. Everything else is precision (lol) guesswork based on photos and sketches, very few of which are in agreement.
Cheers
Dick
Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 10:19 PM UTC
Hi Alex and Dick,
You're making good progress, looking good.
Hi Rick,
As before great work on the St Chamond.
Hi Cam and Alan,
Welcome along.
Good to see progress on all fronts
Cheers
Al
edit:
Hi Daniel, Your SE5a look brilliant BTW.
Al
You're making good progress, looking good.
Hi Rick,
As before great work on the St Chamond.
Hi Cam and Alan,
Welcome along.
Good to see progress on all fronts
Cheers
Al
edit:
Hi Daniel, Your SE5a look brilliant BTW.
Al
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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2014 - 11:34 AM UTC
Alex: The pictures are unfolding nicely...
Alan: I really like the decals on that sheet, nice choice
Cam: Looking forward to seeing your build pics!
Dick: That beast of a gun is looking right at home in those tracks.
Alan: I really like the decals on that sheet, nice choice
Cam: Looking forward to seeing your build pics!
Dick: That beast of a gun is looking right at home in those tracks.
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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2014 - 05:26 PM UTC
Thanks Al and Jeremy.
On the subject of the Gantry crane., the photo below shows the crane which was abandoned at the emplacement in the Bois de Corbie near Beaumont which is the one I am modeling. The bridge beam rests on two towers which to my eye are a trifle flimsy considering they had to support a load of well over a hundred metric tons.
The next photo is of one of the early Paris gun emplacements with a concrete base. I included this because it shows how the barrel was slung beneath the crane on double hooks. It must have been a tricky balancing act. Note that the tower used to tension the suspension rig is folded to provide clearance for the crane. The bridge beam is supported on uprights rather than derrick type towers.
The following photo shows a similar crane with vertical supports which may be hydraulic. The bridge beam is generally similar to the others.
Now on to the model. The next picture shows the two towers, the two halves of the bridge beam, and the trucks on which the towers will be mounted. The wheels and axles were originally HO scale (1/87) and it was necessary to cut the axles and widen the gauge to 1/72 scale by splicing in a section of plastic tube.
The final picture shows the Gantry crane partly assembled. The parts are dry fitted as there is a lot of detail to be added.
Still a lot to do, but we're getting there.
Cheers
Dick
On the subject of the Gantry crane., the photo below shows the crane which was abandoned at the emplacement in the Bois de Corbie near Beaumont which is the one I am modeling. The bridge beam rests on two towers which to my eye are a trifle flimsy considering they had to support a load of well over a hundred metric tons.
The next photo is of one of the early Paris gun emplacements with a concrete base. I included this because it shows how the barrel was slung beneath the crane on double hooks. It must have been a tricky balancing act. Note that the tower used to tension the suspension rig is folded to provide clearance for the crane. The bridge beam is supported on uprights rather than derrick type towers.
The following photo shows a similar crane with vertical supports which may be hydraulic. The bridge beam is generally similar to the others.
Now on to the model. The next picture shows the two towers, the two halves of the bridge beam, and the trucks on which the towers will be mounted. The wheels and axles were originally HO scale (1/87) and it was necessary to cut the axles and widen the gauge to 1/72 scale by splicing in a section of plastic tube.
The final picture shows the Gantry crane partly assembled. The parts are dry fitted as there is a lot of detail to be added.
Still a lot to do, but we're getting there.
Cheers
Dick
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 05:52 AM UTC
Quick update.
The figures are coming along. There's still a bit of work left on them; touch-ups, dirty them up, etc.
Running guy.
Officer/NCO
Trench tool guy. My least favorite posed figure.
Shooter. I posed the helmet cocked a bit off, like it's ill-fitting. I doubt it'll be noticeable when it's placed.
I gave the base a wash. I've got to start adding some vegetation and foliage. Touch up the trench details. I'm debating on discarded equipment and the wagon wheel.
That's it for now.
The figures are coming along. There's still a bit of work left on them; touch-ups, dirty them up, etc.
Running guy.
Officer/NCO
Trench tool guy. My least favorite posed figure.
Shooter. I posed the helmet cocked a bit off, like it's ill-fitting. I doubt it'll be noticeable when it's placed.
I gave the base a wash. I've got to start adding some vegetation and foliage. Touch up the trench details. I'm debating on discarded equipment and the wagon wheel.
That's it for now.
Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 11:03 AM UTC
Richard - love your Paris gun and will be following your progress.
Alex - your trench section looks good, I might try to build a trench base for the St. Chamond but I usually get involved in building the next kit (Too impatient).
The build of the St. Chamond is finished and the kit is ready for paint. Some of the track links look like they were marinated in mold release agent so a good wash is going to be needed.
Alex - your trench section looks good, I might try to build a trench base for the St. Chamond but I usually get involved in building the next kit (Too impatient).
The build of the St. Chamond is finished and the kit is ready for paint. Some of the track links look like they were marinated in mold release agent so a good wash is going to be needed.
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Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 12:04 PM UTC
Thanks to everyone for their comments.
Most of the detailing on the Gantry crane is done except for rigging the cables and the hoisting hook which I'm leaving for last. The photo below shows the two support towers and the bridge beam before assembly.
The next photo is of the assembled Gantry crane. The traveling block is mounted on a truck salvaged from an N-scale (1/160) railroad car and runs on a pair of 2 mm channels glued on top of the beam . The sheave on the traveling block came from a 1/35 scale air compressor, and the two sheaves on the ends of the beam are cut-down wheels from a toy Hot Wheels car. I'm not happy with them, but they're the best I can do at the moment. They are removable, and if I find something better, I'll replace them. The ladders are HO scale model railroad parts. The two jib cranes were made from curved pieces of sprue.
Next step is some paint.
Cheers
Dick
Most of the detailing on the Gantry crane is done except for rigging the cables and the hoisting hook which I'm leaving for last. The photo below shows the two support towers and the bridge beam before assembly.
The next photo is of the assembled Gantry crane. The traveling block is mounted on a truck salvaged from an N-scale (1/160) railroad car and runs on a pair of 2 mm channels glued on top of the beam . The sheave on the traveling block came from a 1/35 scale air compressor, and the two sheaves on the ends of the beam are cut-down wheels from a toy Hot Wheels car. I'm not happy with them, but they're the best I can do at the moment. They are removable, and if I find something better, I'll replace them. The ladders are HO scale model railroad parts. The two jib cranes were made from curved pieces of sprue.
Next step is some paint.
Cheers
Dick
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Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 03:11 PM UTC
Richard, Amazing work.
Cam, Thanks. I think crossing a trench would be a great way to display the St. Chamond.
Cam, Thanks. I think crossing a trench would be a great way to display the St. Chamond.
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 07:39 AM UTC
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 02:14 PM UTC
Nice work Simon. I always enjoy your updates.
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 06:05 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2014 - 04:02 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments, guys.
Cam - Nice work on the St. Chamond. Careful when crossing a trench with all that overhang. I understand the later models had rollers fore and aft to keep them from digging into the banks.
Simon - Your detailing on Tiger is amazing.
Alan, your Ford T ambulance is perfect.
Yes, Tin, Tin, Tin!
You exasperating puzzle, Hunka Tin!
I've abused you and I've flayed you
But by Henry Ford who made you,
You are better than a Packard, Hunka Tin
Cheers,
Dick
Cam - Nice work on the St. Chamond. Careful when crossing a trench with all that overhang. I understand the later models had rollers fore and aft to keep them from digging into the banks.
Simon - Your detailing on Tiger is amazing.
Alan, your Ford T ambulance is perfect.
Yes, Tin, Tin, Tin!
You exasperating puzzle, Hunka Tin!
I've abused you and I've flayed you
But by Henry Ford who made you,
You are better than a Packard, Hunka Tin
Cheers,
Dick
Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - 02:52 AM UTC
Hi Dick,
Many thanks for the feedback, glad you approve and I like the 'Hunka Tin' poem.
Cheers and thanks for the input.
Al
Many thanks for the feedback, glad you approve and I like the 'Hunka Tin' poem.
Cheers and thanks for the input.
Al
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - 04:17 PM UTC
Hi Alan,
For the benefit of those who haven't seen this poem on the Internet, here is the complete version as originally published in the American Field Service Bulletin during WWI.
Hunka Tin
You may talk about your voitures
When you're sitting round the quarters,
But when it comes to getting blesses in-
Take a little tip from me,
Let those heavy motors be,
Pin your faith on Henry F's old Hunka Tin.
Give her essence and de l'eau,
Crank her up and let her go,
You back firin', spark-plug foulin' Hunka Tin.
The paint is not so good,
And no doubt you'll find the hood
Will rattle like a boiler shop en route;
The cooler's sure to boil
And perhaps she's leakin' oil;
Then often times the horn declines to toot.
But when the night is black,
And there's blesses to take back,
And they hardly give you time to take a smoke;
It's might good to feel,
When you're sitting at the wheel,
She'll be running when the bigger cars are broke.
After all the wars are past,
And we're taken home at last,
To our reward of which the preacher sings;
When those ukulele sharps
Will be strumming golden harps,
And the aviators all have reg'lar wings.
When the Kaiser is in hell,
With the furnace drawing well,
Paying for his million different kinds of sin,
If they're running short of coal,
Show me how to reach the hole,
And I'll cast a few loads down with Hunka Tin.
Yes, Tin, Tin, Tin!
You exasperating puzzle, Hunka Tin!
I've abused you and I've flahyed you
But by Henry Ford who made you,
You are better than a Packard, Hunka Tin!
(Blesses was the term used for wounded French soldiers.)
Cheers,
Dick
For the benefit of those who haven't seen this poem on the Internet, here is the complete version as originally published in the American Field Service Bulletin during WWI.
Hunka Tin
You may talk about your voitures
When you're sitting round the quarters,
But when it comes to getting blesses in-
Take a little tip from me,
Let those heavy motors be,
Pin your faith on Henry F's old Hunka Tin.
Give her essence and de l'eau,
Crank her up and let her go,
You back firin', spark-plug foulin' Hunka Tin.
The paint is not so good,
And no doubt you'll find the hood
Will rattle like a boiler shop en route;
The cooler's sure to boil
And perhaps she's leakin' oil;
Then often times the horn declines to toot.
But when the night is black,
And there's blesses to take back,
And they hardly give you time to take a smoke;
It's might good to feel,
When you're sitting at the wheel,
She'll be running when the bigger cars are broke.
After all the wars are past,
And we're taken home at last,
To our reward of which the preacher sings;
When those ukulele sharps
Will be strumming golden harps,
And the aviators all have reg'lar wings.
When the Kaiser is in hell,
With the furnace drawing well,
Paying for his million different kinds of sin,
If they're running short of coal,
Show me how to reach the hole,
And I'll cast a few loads down with Hunka Tin.
Yes, Tin, Tin, Tin!
You exasperating puzzle, Hunka Tin!
I've abused you and I've flahyed you
But by Henry Ford who made you,
You are better than a Packard, Hunka Tin!
(Blesses was the term used for wounded French soldiers.)
Cheers,
Dick
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - 04:35 PM UTC
Hi all
I've given the Gantry crane some paint, and rigged the cables on the beam, but I'm not happy with the way they turned out. Too much spring in the wire I used. Thread would sag better, but what I had on hand is too thin to be anywhere close to scale. If I find something better, I'll replace the cables.
The photos below show both sides of the crane.
With the Gantry crane finished, I'll get started on landscaping the base, something I haven't done in a very long time.
Cheers
Dick
I've given the Gantry crane some paint, and rigged the cables on the beam, but I'm not happy with the way they turned out. Too much spring in the wire I used. Thread would sag better, but what I had on hand is too thin to be anywhere close to scale. If I find something better, I'll replace the cables.
The photos below show both sides of the crane.
With the Gantry crane finished, I'll get started on landscaping the base, something I haven't done in a very long time.
Cheers
Dick